Scientific discoveries and achievements of last few hundred years. (selected from my faves).
Cure for small pox, Theory of relativity, Haber Process, Nuclear Fission, Large Hadron Collider, Lenski Experiments, transistors, televisions, internet, DNA profiling, Human Genome project, Penicillin, Anti-Biotics, Quantum Theory, Radio Telescopes, Hubble Telescope, Computers, microprocessors, Microwave ovens, Combustion Engines, CD's, Water on Mars, Omh's law, Magnets, Mobile phones, GPS, Satellites, Climate modelling, Plate tectonics, Geological Strata, Fossils, Carbon dating, radio metric dating, vaccinations to name a few
Creationist discoveries and achievements -
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12 April, 2010
11 April, 2010
Creatards Say The Dumbest Things - Part 2
Yebo folk, still in South Africa for this edition
Posted by vuvuzela at 2010-04-09 20:41:22
"Many claim that evolution is a proven fact."
Abseloute fucking bollocks. Nothing in science is ever 100% proven, Evolution is a fact, change over time happens get used to it you twat.
"No, It's not! It is a theory."
Its a fact and a change over time happens (fact of evolution) and that natural selection is the mechanism that explains that change (Theory of evolution by natural selection). Much like the fact you are a Retard (Fact) and that your religion has cuased it (Theory of religious brainwashing)
"An alternative to those who rebel against God."
An alternative to those who rebel against superstitious bullshit
"It should always be referred to as the Theory of Evolution. "
It is you fucking moron. Like fact of relativity - Planets orbit sun. Theory - Bodies warp the space around causing the attraction.
"There is no proven fact to qualify it as scientific fact."
Yes there is , allelic frequencies in populations change over time. Observed fact
"I don't know why such utter rubbish is passed of as science in schools and universities."
Because of evidence. Vast amounts, Mountains of Evidence has been gathered.
"With all the big brains and so much money spent to research a theory? "
That's what scientists do you cretinous dog turd. They research theories is this really a huge surprise to you ?
"This speaks of a hidden agenda to try and disprove God".
You can't prove a universal negative. But this could also be a hidden agenda to disprove Thor.
"No creature can disprove God. "
Correct, no-one disprove Thor.
"He transcends time and space and we can search the heights and depths of our universe only to reveal more of God's authority and power."
You all-power creator loves a good game of hide and seek ?
"The study of true factual science will point to a Master Designer, a perfect Creator. [In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Genesis 1:1]"
True Factual science and the book of genesis ? that's like comparing the finest whisky to 6 month old sewage waste. Apologies to sewage waste being compare to genesis.
Posted by vuvuzela at 2010-04-09 20:41:22
"Many claim that evolution is a proven fact."
Abseloute fucking bollocks. Nothing in science is ever 100% proven, Evolution is a fact, change over time happens get used to it you twat.
"No, It's not! It is a theory."
Its a fact and a change over time happens (fact of evolution) and that natural selection is the mechanism that explains that change (Theory of evolution by natural selection). Much like the fact you are a Retard (Fact) and that your religion has cuased it (Theory of religious brainwashing)
"An alternative to those who rebel against God."
An alternative to those who rebel against superstitious bullshit
"It should always be referred to as the Theory of Evolution. "
It is you fucking moron. Like fact of relativity - Planets orbit sun. Theory - Bodies warp the space around causing the attraction.
"There is no proven fact to qualify it as scientific fact."
Yes there is , allelic frequencies in populations change over time. Observed fact
"I don't know why such utter rubbish is passed of as science in schools and universities."
Because of evidence. Vast amounts, Mountains of Evidence has been gathered.
"With all the big brains and so much money spent to research a theory? "
That's what scientists do you cretinous dog turd. They research theories is this really a huge surprise to you ?
"This speaks of a hidden agenda to try and disprove God".
You can't prove a universal negative. But this could also be a hidden agenda to disprove Thor.
"No creature can disprove God. "
Correct, no-one disprove Thor.
"He transcends time and space and we can search the heights and depths of our universe only to reveal more of God's authority and power."
You all-power creator loves a good game of hide and seek ?
"The study of true factual science will point to a Master Designer, a perfect Creator. [In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Genesis 1:1]"
True Factual science and the book of genesis ? that's like comparing the finest whisky to 6 month old sewage waste. Apologies to sewage waste being compare to genesis.
10 April, 2010
The Usual Discourse Between a Theist and an Atheist
The 10 phases on the usual discourse between a Theist and an Atheist.
This is how the usual scenario plays out;
1. A Theist produces an argument for their belief in God (“I believe in God!”)
2. An Atheists produces a counter-argument (“Why?”)
3. The Theist rejects the counterargument citing passages from The Bible;
Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
4. The Atheist gets pissed off because their time is wasted and starts a series of verbal attacks on the Theist. (“Ignorant Twat.”)
5. The Theist claims that the Atheist (and Atheists in general) are of a hateful nature, saying insults are the only thing they can do, again citing Bible Verses, usually referencing the Devil.
6. The Atheist, tired with the Theists ignorance chooses to ignore them and go onto something else.
7. The Theist claims victory and ends it with saying the Atheist is against Free Speech for not accepting the “arguments” presented from the Bible.
8. The Atheist responds with a similar reply, saying the Theist is against Free Speech for not accepting the original reply.
9. Everyone’s Time is Wasted.
10. Steps 7 through 10 are repeated into Infinity.
I’m sure anyone who has had a “debate” with a Theist- in particular a Fundamentalist- would be very familiar with this set of events which just continues to spiral into a complete waste of time for both parties.
Just my particular note on this.
I’d like to end, quoting from the King James Version 1611 of The Bible.
1 Peter 3:15;
But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear.
So if any Christian dodges the question- bring this little quote up to get them back to the topic at hand.
Trolling with Logic,
RyuOni1989
Creatards Say The Dumbest Things - Part 1
Found this on a South African site that held a poll on if people believe in evolution. You can read it here
Posted by Viv at 2010-04-09 06:25:21
"At what stage did some dumb organism decide to get together, crawl out of the sea and start to walk?"
It didn't you ignorant twat. Organisms adapt to their surrounding through mutations, genetic drift and natural selection. Speaking of dumb organisms when are you going to get educated?.
"Why do we not see half fish and half humans now?"
Fish and humans share a common ancestor and are on different branches of the evolutionary tree.
"Why did it stop with us the 'top of the species'?"
Evolution has not stopped and all organisms present are equally evolved. But I can maybe think of one exception ...
"Get real people Darwin was a 'dork',"
Ad hominem eh? Darwin may be a dork but judging by your retarded bullshit a hell of a lot smarter than you are.
"we were created, as was the rest of the universe."
For fucks sake, how many times? Big Bang and evolution are two different fields of study. Big Bang is the explanation for current state of the universe, a field of physics. Evolution is explanation for the diversity of life, biology.
"I do not believe that I evolved from some knuckle dragging ape"
Neither do I as that would insult apes everywhere to be related to a fucktard such as yourself. We share a common ancestor with modern day apes and furthermore we are apes.
" Anyhow the debate will rage on - Who came first, the chicken or the egg. I think it was the rooster. "
WHAT THE FUCK ??? Are you truthful Christian ?
Posted by Viv at 2010-04-09 06:25:21
"At what stage did some dumb organism decide to get together, crawl out of the sea and start to walk?"
It didn't you ignorant twat. Organisms adapt to their surrounding through mutations, genetic drift and natural selection. Speaking of dumb organisms when are you going to get educated?.
"Why do we not see half fish and half humans now?"
Fish and humans share a common ancestor and are on different branches of the evolutionary tree.
"Why did it stop with us the 'top of the species'?"
Evolution has not stopped and all organisms present are equally evolved. But I can maybe think of one exception ...
"Get real people Darwin was a 'dork',"
Ad hominem eh? Darwin may be a dork but judging by your retarded bullshit a hell of a lot smarter than you are.
"we were created, as was the rest of the universe."
For fucks sake, how many times? Big Bang and evolution are two different fields of study. Big Bang is the explanation for current state of the universe, a field of physics. Evolution is explanation for the diversity of life, biology.
"I do not believe that I evolved from some knuckle dragging ape"
Neither do I as that would insult apes everywhere to be related to a fucktard such as yourself. We share a common ancestor with modern day apes and furthermore we are apes.
" Anyhow the debate will rage on - Who came first, the chicken or the egg. I think it was the rooster. "
WHAT THE FUCK ??? Are you truthful Christian ?
In Defence of the LHC
Something I have to get off my chest here, and its the constant bashing by the ignorant of the Large Hadron Collider. Whilst I am excited at the new possibilities that this awesome piece of engineering will offer I still hear the same grumbling from the anti-science mob "It costs too much" "It's not going to affect me" "could they not spend the money on something more worthwhile?" etc.
To those who say it costs too much, this project was undertaken with participation from 40 different countries - Armenia, Australia, Austria, Azerbaijan Republic, Belarus, Belgium, Brazil, Bulgaria, Canada, China, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Georgia, Germany, Greece, Hungary, India, Israel, Italy, Japan, Korea, Morocco, Netherlands, Norway, Pakistan, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Slovak Republic, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, Ukraine, United Kingdom, United States, Uzbekistan. Costs being split (not equally) among them, Also what price do you put on building something never before attempted?. CERN is also a nuclear physics research group so what else are they going to do?. People like to just lump them with the general term "scientists" but the are a distinct breed of scientist, physicists and these are the tools of their trade.
"Its not going to affect me" to these guys I ask do you feel the same about general relativity theory ? some have said yes, that general relativity has no impact on their day to day lives. Yet I notice they all use cell phones, most have GPS in their cars as they drive home, some watch satellite TV, all of us pay attention to the weather forecast. So how are all these linked?. Satellites, All the way up there in the sky and keeping them up there would be much more difficult if we did not understand that planets warp the space around them. The deeper understanding we have the orbital mechanics around us had directly impacted out life in a huge way. The LHC is now going to push our understanding further answering the questions such as what is mass? are there extra dimensions? how exactly does gravity work?. The possibilities that await us as a result of these discoveries are endless and could impact us in every area of our life.
But it saddens me that every scientific endeavour now is met with a shoulder shrugging "so what" attitude. But put it like this for £6 billion 40 countries came together and put together the worlds largest machine. The LHC now employs over 100 different nationalities all brought together in the spirit of discovery. If you are a US citizen then the Iraq war as of 2008 cost near on $450 billion the LHC costs $9 billion. So for a 0.02% of the Iraq war you can push the advance human knowledge on the grandest scale yet.
Bargain of the century.
To those who say it costs too much, this project was undertaken with participation from 40 different countries - Armenia, Australia, Austria, Azerbaijan Republic, Belarus, Belgium, Brazil, Bulgaria, Canada, China, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Georgia, Germany, Greece, Hungary, India, Israel, Italy, Japan, Korea, Morocco, Netherlands, Norway, Pakistan, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Slovak Republic, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, Ukraine, United Kingdom, United States, Uzbekistan. Costs being split (not equally) among them, Also what price do you put on building something never before attempted?. CERN is also a nuclear physics research group so what else are they going to do?. People like to just lump them with the general term "scientists" but the are a distinct breed of scientist, physicists and these are the tools of their trade.
"Its not going to affect me" to these guys I ask do you feel the same about general relativity theory ? some have said yes, that general relativity has no impact on their day to day lives. Yet I notice they all use cell phones, most have GPS in their cars as they drive home, some watch satellite TV, all of us pay attention to the weather forecast. So how are all these linked?. Satellites, All the way up there in the sky and keeping them up there would be much more difficult if we did not understand that planets warp the space around them. The deeper understanding we have the orbital mechanics around us had directly impacted out life in a huge way. The LHC is now going to push our understanding further answering the questions such as what is mass? are there extra dimensions? how exactly does gravity work?. The possibilities that await us as a result of these discoveries are endless and could impact us in every area of our life.
But it saddens me that every scientific endeavour now is met with a shoulder shrugging "so what" attitude. But put it like this for £6 billion 40 countries came together and put together the worlds largest machine. The LHC now employs over 100 different nationalities all brought together in the spirit of discovery. If you are a US citizen then the Iraq war as of 2008 cost near on $450 billion the LHC costs $9 billion. So for a 0.02% of the Iraq war you can push the advance human knowledge on the grandest scale yet.
Bargain of the century.
08 April, 2010
UK Election 2010, Questions for your candidate
Yes here in UK an election campaign has swung into full force. And although we like to believe that we are immune from the Creationist Crazies, seeing them as an American Phenomena. There are still other things for the rational community on these shores to worry about. Namely the ever increasing push for "Alternative" medicine and the wedging of Shariah Law into our courts. But we voters can do our own bit www.skeptical-voter.org has published a list that any rational thinker should be asking their prospective MP. Here is the list
Skeptical Voter’s suggested questions for candidates ahead of the General Election 2010:
1. Do you support the use of public funds to provide unproven alternative “treatments” such as homeopathy?
2. Should schools be allowed to teach creationism as an equivalent theory to evolution?
3. Do you believe that religious belief should be legally protected from ridicule?
4. Should an independent government adviser whose views in their area of expertise conflict with government policy be able to express those views publicly without fear of being sacked?
5. Should Sharia law be allowed as an alternative system within UK law?
6. Do you agree that testing on animals (within strict criteria) is a necessary part of the development of medicines?
7. Should policy-makers trust scientific evidence even when it appears counter-intuitive?
8. Do you think that abortion time limits should always be determined by the current scientific and medical consensus?
9. Should religious leaders be entitled to vote in the House of Lords?
10. Do you support the reform of English and Welsh libel law to allow a stronger ‘public interest’ defence?
I'll be emailing this round my prospective candidates here and letting you know of the results. Any other UK readers, I strongly advise you follow suit.
Skeptical Voter’s suggested questions for candidates ahead of the General Election 2010:
1. Do you support the use of public funds to provide unproven alternative “treatments” such as homeopathy?
2. Should schools be allowed to teach creationism as an equivalent theory to evolution?
3. Do you believe that religious belief should be legally protected from ridicule?
4. Should an independent government adviser whose views in their area of expertise conflict with government policy be able to express those views publicly without fear of being sacked?
5. Should Sharia law be allowed as an alternative system within UK law?
6. Do you agree that testing on animals (within strict criteria) is a necessary part of the development of medicines?
7. Should policy-makers trust scientific evidence even when it appears counter-intuitive?
8. Do you think that abortion time limits should always be determined by the current scientific and medical consensus?
9. Should religious leaders be entitled to vote in the House of Lords?
10. Do you support the reform of English and Welsh libel law to allow a stronger ‘public interest’ defence?
I'll be emailing this round my prospective candidates here and letting you know of the results. Any other UK readers, I strongly advise you follow suit.
The spike has arrived
Hey. This is Chattiestspike2. Right to the point- I am a huge promoter of science and education. An educated society has an infinitely higher chance of propogating than a society which isn't- and the big block that is a huge barrier between advancement and recession is not financial issues nor is it geographic or ethnic placing; it is religion and it's bible literalists: Creationists.
I am anti intelligent design, anti magic-man-dun-it, anti hovind, anti comfort, anti strobel, anti cameron, and anti ham. I find it sickening that these huge fundamentalist organizations go out of their way to retard the knowledge of society in the name of a diety which has no evidence for it's existence except for a man-made book written hundreds of years ago- and because of this, because of my hatred for this kind of abuse, I find it my moral duty to fight against it with all the power I have, which might not be much but whatever I DO have, it will be unleashed.
I am not anti religion. I want to make that as clear as possible right off the bat. If someone wants to believe in a magical space fairy, that's perfectly fine with me. But I begin to have problems when religious people impose it on other people and force their ideologies down the throats of others. I begin to have problems when religious people tell me, or other people for the matter, they they are going to hell because they don't accept the same beliefs which they do. I begin to have problems with religious people who have a hatred for people outside their religion. And I begin to have problems when religious people try to slow down the progession of society and scientific advancements. If you cross any of those lines, you crossed into Chattiestspike territory, and you better expect conflict.
If you are religious but you don't bother anyone, you don't force your ideologies nor do you shun those who are outside your religion, AND you don't try to stop scientific progress in any way, shape, or form- you are a very rare kind of person, and you don't have to worry.
I sense you may have the idea of where I am coming from. I am please to be on this blog and I look forward to its progess.
- Chattiestspike2
I am anti intelligent design, anti magic-man-dun-it, anti hovind, anti comfort, anti strobel, anti cameron, and anti ham. I find it sickening that these huge fundamentalist organizations go out of their way to retard the knowledge of society in the name of a diety which has no evidence for it's existence except for a man-made book written hundreds of years ago- and because of this, because of my hatred for this kind of abuse, I find it my moral duty to fight against it with all the power I have, which might not be much but whatever I DO have, it will be unleashed.
I am not anti religion. I want to make that as clear as possible right off the bat. If someone wants to believe in a magical space fairy, that's perfectly fine with me. But I begin to have problems when religious people impose it on other people and force their ideologies down the throats of others. I begin to have problems when religious people tell me, or other people for the matter, they they are going to hell because they don't accept the same beliefs which they do. I begin to have problems with religious people who have a hatred for people outside their religion. And I begin to have problems when religious people try to slow down the progession of society and scientific advancements. If you cross any of those lines, you crossed into Chattiestspike territory, and you better expect conflict.
If you are religious but you don't bother anyone, you don't force your ideologies nor do you shun those who are outside your religion, AND you don't try to stop scientific progress in any way, shape, or form- you are a very rare kind of person, and you don't have to worry.
I sense you may have the idea of where I am coming from. I am please to be on this blog and I look forward to its progess.
- Chattiestspike2
Intro for RyuOni1989
Yo, this is RyuOni1989.
Just a brief intro from me, I'll mainly be repeating what I've said on youtube in my "Intro" vid there.
I'm 20 years old, currently working in Japan- in a home for the Mentally Handicapped with a charity.
I was previously an evangelical creationist but have been an atheist since around the age of 12 after coming to the age of reason.
I'm an atheist purely by logic and backed by facts and science. Quite the competetive person I guess- but at least I'll never just lay down and play dead for the idiots of the world.
I'm logical, but not heartless. Harsh, but fair.
I'm not really much for the writing- more for the ranting, but this is just an intro post.
With that, I'm gonna sign off-
Trolling with Logic, RyuOni1989.
Just a brief intro from me, I'll mainly be repeating what I've said on youtube in my "Intro" vid there.
I'm 20 years old, currently working in Japan- in a home for the Mentally Handicapped with a charity.
I was previously an evangelical creationist but have been an atheist since around the age of 12 after coming to the age of reason.
I'm an atheist purely by logic and backed by facts and science. Quite the competetive person I guess- but at least I'll never just lay down and play dead for the idiots of the world.
I'm logical, but not heartless. Harsh, but fair.
I'm not really much for the writing- more for the ranting, but this is just an intro post.
With that, I'm gonna sign off-
Trolling with Logic, RyuOni1989.
07 April, 2010
Scientists , more useful than any ex-Lord Provost.
The following is an email sent to the former provost of Aberdeen, Jim Reynolds. As seems to custom these days people take stabs at CERN and the LHC without taking time to fully understand what it is and the incredible discoveries that await.
Mr Reynolds,
I couldn't help but read with a lot of dismay your ill-informed, anti-science rhetoric in your "Second Big Bang is A Waste of Cash" today's (5th April 2010) Evening express. You seem to dismiss one of greatest engineering and scientific achievements in human history, namely the LHC built by CERN. Lets look at your article step by step.
"I thought the world was going through recession and money was tight, yet scientists have spent over £6 Billion on a machine to re-create the Big Bang"
Well a number of problems here, if you had done some research first you would have found out that that the building of the LHC was approved back in 1995, and the first passing of the particles through the LHC began in September 2008. Also over 40 countries were involved in the construction with each country contributing to the cost. This is hardly a new thing that scientists cooked up over night.
"What an absolute waste of money who cares what happened 13 billion years ago"
Is there a cut-of date for how far into the past scientists can research?. Also the LHC is about more than the Big Bang it is an attempt to understand the fundamentals of space, time, mass energy. If Einstein was with us right now he would be excited beyond words, but hey you an Ex-Provost would tell us what do these damned scientists know about anything?. We stand on the brink of discovering what makes up mass, how quantum mechanics and general relativity interact, are there extra dimensions to space? and many other profound discoveries await us but you think this is a waste of time and money?. Please I would like to see you tell that to the hundreds of brilliant minds that brought this into reality. Would you have scoffed at Copernicus when he discovered helio centrism? would you tell him who cares if our planet orbits the sun?
"Who gives a hoot if our great, great granny was an ape?"
Now you are showing how truly ignorant you are of science, and that you are in no position to be so scathing. Firstly the LHC has nothing to do with you poorly worded attack on evolution. The LHC deals with physics and Evolution is Biology, a basic secondary eduction would tell you this. Also we humans are apes, not separate from ape we share a common ancestor with modern day apes extensive research but those pesky scientists you seem to have so little time for confirms this. Also if you don't give a hoot about evolutionary biology then I'm sure you wouldn't object to never having another vaccination. Vaccinations only came about through our understanding that viruses evolve over time and change, but then again who gives a hoot?.
"Their latest test which was carried out last week was obviously timed to coincide with Easter"
This is worrying as you have now gone from anti science into plain conspiracy mode. The latest test were performed because the LHC has to shut down in the winter to save the costs of running it. And are you suggesting they should avoid doing tests just because of Easter would you advise them not to test in case in clashed with Ramadan ?
"Could it be they merely wanted to Disprove the existence of God?"
How this is linked to the work at the LHC I have no idea , a great many scientists believe in god and science does not make any comment on the supernatural pro or con. Science draws conclusions based on the evidence it discovers and has an excellent track record of discovery and expanding human knowledge.
But then again discovery, knowledge and understanding reality who really gives a hoot ?
Answer - Humanity.
Mr Reynolds,
I couldn't help but read with a lot of dismay your ill-informed, anti-science rhetoric in your "Second Big Bang is A Waste of Cash" today's (5th April 2010) Evening express. You seem to dismiss one of greatest engineering and scientific achievements in human history, namely the LHC built by CERN. Lets look at your article step by step.
"I thought the world was going through recession and money was tight, yet scientists have spent over £6 Billion on a machine to re-create the Big Bang"
Well a number of problems here, if you had done some research first you would have found out that that the building of the LHC was approved back in 1995, and the first passing of the particles through the LHC began in September 2008. Also over 40 countries were involved in the construction with each country contributing to the cost. This is hardly a new thing that scientists cooked up over night.
"What an absolute waste of money who cares what happened 13 billion years ago"
Is there a cut-of date for how far into the past scientists can research?. Also the LHC is about more than the Big Bang it is an attempt to understand the fundamentals of space, time, mass energy. If Einstein was with us right now he would be excited beyond words, but hey you an Ex-Provost would tell us what do these damned scientists know about anything?. We stand on the brink of discovering what makes up mass, how quantum mechanics and general relativity interact, are there extra dimensions to space? and many other profound discoveries await us but you think this is a waste of time and money?. Please I would like to see you tell that to the hundreds of brilliant minds that brought this into reality. Would you have scoffed at Copernicus when he discovered helio centrism? would you tell him who cares if our planet orbits the sun?
"Who gives a hoot if our great, great granny was an ape?"
Now you are showing how truly ignorant you are of science, and that you are in no position to be so scathing. Firstly the LHC has nothing to do with you poorly worded attack on evolution. The LHC deals with physics and Evolution is Biology, a basic secondary eduction would tell you this. Also we humans are apes, not separate from ape we share a common ancestor with modern day apes extensive research but those pesky scientists you seem to have so little time for confirms this. Also if you don't give a hoot about evolutionary biology then I'm sure you wouldn't object to never having another vaccination. Vaccinations only came about through our understanding that viruses evolve over time and change, but then again who gives a hoot?.
"Their latest test which was carried out last week was obviously timed to coincide with Easter"
This is worrying as you have now gone from anti science into plain conspiracy mode. The latest test were performed because the LHC has to shut down in the winter to save the costs of running it. And are you suggesting they should avoid doing tests just because of Easter would you advise them not to test in case in clashed with Ramadan ?
"Could it be they merely wanted to Disprove the existence of God?"
How this is linked to the work at the LHC I have no idea , a great many scientists believe in god and science does not make any comment on the supernatural pro or con. Science draws conclusions based on the evidence it discovers and has an excellent track record of discovery and expanding human knowledge.
But then again discovery, knowledge and understanding reality who really gives a hoot ?
Answer - Humanity.
19 December, 2009
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